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	<title>Comments on: Much Ado About Nothing</title>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2166</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t lie, I want me a panda. But in this day and age, despite the money we shell out to Blizzard for two (currently three, we&#039;re RAF&#039;ing again) accounts, or maybe because of it... that extra $10 is just too much. Especially because I have so many (around 80) little pets already, it&#039;s almost impossible to choose one to have out.

I like these ones mostly because they&#039;re interactive. Like Stinker and the rabbits from Easter.. they&#039;re just more fun with that little extra bit of activity.

I agree that it would be a better situation if Blizzard either gave the entire $10 to the charity, or kept the pets for sale forever. But I think they&#039;re also trying to cash in on the whole &quot;get them before they&#039;re gone&quot; mentality too. Things are always more valuable to the consumer when they&#039;re in limited supply. Especially something that&#039;s essentially a novelty to begin with. Just look at the pet section of the AH.
.-= Carrie´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://asaradragon.blogspot.com/2009/11/even-more-acetone-free.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Even More Acetone Free!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t lie, I want me a panda. But in this day and age, despite the money we shell out to Blizzard for two (currently three, we&#8217;re RAF&#8217;ing again) accounts, or maybe because of it&#8230; that extra $10 is just too much. Especially because I have so many (around 80) little pets already, it&#8217;s almost impossible to choose one to have out.</p>
<p>I like these ones mostly because they&#8217;re interactive. Like Stinker and the rabbits from Easter.. they&#8217;re just more fun with that little extra bit of activity.</p>
<p>I agree that it would be a better situation if Blizzard either gave the entire $10 to the charity, or kept the pets for sale forever. But I think they&#8217;re also trying to cash in on the whole &#8220;get them before they&#8217;re gone&#8221; mentality too. Things are always more valuable to the consumer when they&#8217;re in limited supply. Especially something that&#8217;s essentially a novelty to begin with. Just look at the pet section of the AH.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Carrie´s last blog ..<a href="http://asaradragon.blogspot.com/2009/11/even-more-acetone-free.html" rel="nofollow">Even More Acetone Free!</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Elleiras</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2165</link>
		<dc:creator>Elleiras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who works in a virtual industry, I can assure you that there most definitely are costs associated with developing the pets -- and, indeed, anything in the game.  Pixels don&#039;t actually come out of thin air.  :P  I&#039;m sure you know that, though, just as I&#039;m sure that Blizzard will make back the investment in relatively short order (if they haven&#039;t already) and anything earned on top of that will be pure profit.

That said, I do understand the point you were attempting to make and apologize for misconstruing it.  I still feel that the exaggerated emotional responses over at PPI are out of place though -- even a little ridiculous.  A for-profit company is selling a product for profit (a product that some customers actually want!) and people are somehow surprised and disappointed?  Really?  O.o
.-= Elleiras´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Much Ado About Nothing&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who works in a virtual industry, I can assure you that there most definitely are costs associated with developing the pets &#8212; and, indeed, anything in the game.  Pixels don&#8217;t actually come out of thin air.  <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m sure you know that, though, just as I&#8217;m sure that Blizzard will make back the investment in relatively short order (if they haven&#8217;t already) and anything earned on top of that will be pure profit.</p>
<p>That said, I do understand the point you were attempting to make and apologize for misconstruing it.  I still feel that the exaggerated emotional responses over at PPI are out of place though &#8212; even a little ridiculous.  A for-profit company is selling a product for profit (a product that some customers actually want!) and people are somehow surprised and disappointed?  Really?  O.o<br />
<span class="cluv"> Elleiras´s last blog ..<a href="http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" rel="nofollow">Much Ado About Nothing</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Crucifer</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2164</link>
		<dc:creator>Crucifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I was the commenter who used the word &#039;abhorrent&#039; and, as Rhii mentions, unfortunately I did use it to garner some emotional response other than &quot;Gee that&#039;s awful&quot;. I could have used - &#039;irritated&#039;, &#039;annoyed&#039;, &#039;exasperated&#039;, &#039;saddened&#039; etc., but I don&#039;t think they would have been descriptive of my reaction or to the point I was trying to make at the time.

And that was that my comment on Elnia&#039;s blog was not about the microtransaction of pets but the fact that Blizzard is using a charity to halt money-making accusations against them. 

Let&#039;s make this clear. You are not giving money to a charity. You are giving money to Blizzard, who are then donating to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. The charity themselves are not affiliated in this event, and other than getting cash paid to them by Blizzard are not involved. But this event is only until the end of December. Why stop? This is not a product that has an overhead like shelf space, warehouse storage, administration costs, etc. You pay money, they make a pet out of thin air. I think that would be an amazing gift to charity, endless donations for making nothing.

I, personally, find this sort of charity-selling so that a company can&#039;t be accused of money-making , particularly ... well... well, you get the idea.

So, on hindsight, perhaps &#039;abhorrent&#039; was used out of place. I apologise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I was the commenter who used the word &#8216;abhorrent&#8217; and, as Rhii mentions, unfortunately I did use it to garner some emotional response other than &#8220;Gee that&#8217;s awful&#8221;. I could have used &#8211; &#8216;irritated&#8217;, &#8216;annoyed&#8217;, &#8216;exasperated&#8217;, &#8217;saddened&#8217; etc., but I don&#8217;t think they would have been descriptive of my reaction or to the point I was trying to make at the time.</p>
<p>And that was that my comment on Elnia&#8217;s blog was not about the microtransaction of pets but the fact that Blizzard is using a charity to halt money-making accusations against them. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s make this clear. You are not giving money to a charity. You are giving money to Blizzard, who are then donating to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. The charity themselves are not affiliated in this event, and other than getting cash paid to them by Blizzard are not involved. But this event is only until the end of December. Why stop? This is not a product that has an overhead like shelf space, warehouse storage, administration costs, etc. You pay money, they make a pet out of thin air. I think that would be an amazing gift to charity, endless donations for making nothing.</p>
<p>I, personally, find this sort of charity-selling so that a company can&#8217;t be accused of money-making , particularly &#8230; well&#8230; well, you get the idea.</p>
<p>So, on hindsight, perhaps &#8216;abhorrent&#8217; was used out of place. I apologise.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhii</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2163</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough. I&#039;m not entirely with you, but I can see where you&#039;re coming from a bit more easily, anyway. 

And I wasn&#039;t necessarily trying to evoke the immortal Godwin... although it does seem to be sort of related, doesn&#039;t it? :P
.-= Rhii´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ISheepThings/~3/BMV5UxNOXg0/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Building a Better Guild&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. I&#8217;m not entirely with you, but I can see where you&#8217;re coming from a bit more easily, anyway. </p>
<p>And I wasn&#8217;t necessarily trying to evoke the immortal Godwin&#8230; although it does seem to be sort of related, doesn&#8217;t it? <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Rhii´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ISheepThings/~3/BMV5UxNOXg0/" rel="nofollow">Building a Better Guild</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: The beginning of the end &#124; Anea</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2162</link>
		<dc:creator>The beginning of the end &#124; Anea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that I wrote about already.  I wasn&#8217;t sure exactly what it was, but I had an idea.  Reading Much Ado About Nothing over at Altadin gave me the words I was looking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that I wrote about already.  I wasn&#8217;t sure exactly what it was, but I had an idea.  Reading Much Ado About Nothing over at Altadin gave me the words I was looking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anea</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2161</link>
		<dc:creator>Anea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear!

*select whole post*
/agree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear!</p>
<p>*select whole post*<br />
/agree</p>
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		<title>By: lordofthefries</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2160</link>
		<dc:creator>lordofthefries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;d be pretty awesome to be able to have your shaman in that set...
.-= lordofthefries´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tahasnottatas.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/tier-10/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tier 10&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d be pretty awesome to be able to have your shaman in that set&#8230;<br />
<span class="cluv"> lordofthefries´s last blog ..<a href="http://tahasnottatas.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/tier-10/" rel="nofollow">Tier 10</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Elleiras</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2159</link>
		<dc:creator>Elleiras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, a pet peeve of mine are people who agree for agreement&#039;s sake (especially on Internet bandwagons) -- so just as I stand by my critique of Elnia&#039;s post, I welcome your critique of mine. 

I do want to point out that I&#039;m not reacting to Elnia&#039;s argument, but to the words he used to express -- and, presumably, elict -- an emotional response.  Strong words are great, but they have to be used appropriately; otherwise, they can distort or even undermine the argument they were written to support.  I don&#039;t feel &quot;aghast&quot; or &quot;abhorrent&quot; were used appropriately in either Elnia&#039;s post or in subsequent comments, and said so.  IMO, this is a far cry from fulfilling &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin&#039;s_law&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Godwin&#039;s Law&lt;/a&gt;. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, a pet peeve of mine are people who agree for agreement&#8217;s sake (especially on Internet bandwagons) &#8212; so just as I stand by my critique of Elnia&#8217;s post, I welcome your critique of mine. </p>
<p>I do want to point out that I&#8217;m not reacting to Elnia&#8217;s argument, but to the words he used to express &#8212; and, presumably, elict &#8212; an emotional response.  Strong words are great, but they have to be used appropriately; otherwise, they can distort or even undermine the argument they were written to support.  I don&#8217;t feel &#8220;aghast&#8221; or &#8220;abhorrent&#8221; were used appropriately in either Elnia&#8217;s post or in subsequent comments, and said so.  IMO, this is a far cry from fulfilling <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law" rel="nofollow">Godwin&#8217;s Law</a>. <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dorgol</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2158</link>
		<dc:creator>dorgol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither Lil&#039; KT nor the Pandaran Monk are good enough for me to spend money on.

But the Core Hound Pup was datamined at the same time as those two pets... and THAT one might be enough for me. Because &quot;loot the dog&quot; never gets old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither Lil&#8217; KT nor the Pandaran Monk are good enough for me to spend money on.</p>
<p>But the Core Hound Pup was datamined at the same time as those two pets&#8230; and THAT one might be enough for me. Because &#8220;loot the dog&#8221; never gets old.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhii</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/11/09/much-ado-about-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-2157</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also resisted the urge to comment on Petgate, but it rubs me the wrong way when people take &quot;using strong language&quot; in a rant and compare it to, say the holocaust or something.

Elnia isn&#039;t trying to do that. Simply using persuasive writing techniques (like strong words) in a persuasive piece isn&#039;t trying to equate WOW with tsunamis and famines the world over. Would you rather every blogger said &quot;boy, I&#039;m mad about Blizzard&#039;s newest move... it makes me sad. If they would stop, I would be happy...&quot; Using stock words is boring writing, using strong words is good writing. Using Elnia&#039;s use of strong words as a way to devalue his argument is a kind of straw man argument, which is also a logical fallacy. 

That said, I HATE criticizing anyone in their blog comments it makes me feel like a complete jerk, and I hope you know you&#039;re a favorite blogger of mine and I almost always agree with you... that&#039;s just a pet peeve and I think kind of a cheap move, and it comes up every time someone is trying to stay out of a hot  debate, and I wanted to point it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also resisted the urge to comment on Petgate, but it rubs me the wrong way when people take &#8220;using strong language&#8221; in a rant and compare it to, say the holocaust or something.</p>
<p>Elnia isn&#8217;t trying to do that. Simply using persuasive writing techniques (like strong words) in a persuasive piece isn&#8217;t trying to equate WOW with tsunamis and famines the world over. Would you rather every blogger said &#8220;boy, I&#8217;m mad about Blizzard&#8217;s newest move&#8230; it makes me sad. If they would stop, I would be happy&#8230;&#8221; Using stock words is boring writing, using strong words is good writing. Using Elnia&#8217;s use of strong words as a way to devalue his argument is a kind of straw man argument, which is also a logical fallacy. </p>
<p>That said, I HATE criticizing anyone in their blog comments it makes me feel like a complete jerk, and I hope you know you&#8217;re a favorite blogger of mine and I almost always agree with you&#8230; that&#8217;s just a pet peeve and I think kind of a cheap move, and it comes up every time someone is trying to stay out of a hot  debate, and I wanted to point it out.</p>
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