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	<description>Undergoing a slight crisis of identity ... and taking it all the way to Icecrown.</description>
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		<title>By: Elleiras</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2101</link>
		<dc:creator>Elleiras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very familiar with that jacket!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very familiar with that jacket!  <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elleiras</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2100</link>
		<dc:creator>Elleiras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to offer a belated but heartfelt thank you for the kind words. I&#039;ve avoided coming back to this post because the feelings are still raw, but they were (and are!) appreciated. &lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to offer a belated but heartfelt thank you for the kind words. I&#8217;ve avoided coming back to this post because the feelings are still raw, but they were (and are!) appreciated. &lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: AzureWrath</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2099</link>
		<dc:creator>AzureWrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noooooooooooooooo you lie!!! =(</description>
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		<title>By: Elleiras</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2097</link>
		<dc:creator>Elleiras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how to break this to you, Badsword, but ... it was actually Peng ...
.-= Elleiras´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://altadin.com/2009/11/02/not-it/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Not it!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how to break this to you, Badsword, but &#8230; it was actually Peng &#8230;<br />
<span class="cluv"> Elleiras´s last blog ..<a href="http://altadin.com/2009/11/02/not-it/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" rel="nofollow">Not it!</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: AzureWrath</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2096</link>
		<dc:creator>AzureWrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(although completely unattended, his pet once managed 700 DPS on its own on 10-man Jaraxxus!) &quot;

Cause Drace rocks!!  Even when I&#039;m not playing the game anymore I can pwn ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(although completely unattended, his pet once managed 700 DPS on its own on 10-man Jaraxxus!) &#8221;</p>
<p>Cause Drace rocks!!  Even when I&#8217;m not playing the game anymore I can pwn <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: thrinidir</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2076</link>
		<dc:creator>thrinidir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading your blog for quite a while now and you seem like a thoughtfull and competent person, and what is most important - a friend. If you ever find yourself in need of a feral/feral I would think hard on changing server, faction and race...oh wait, you&#039;re US, I&#039;m EU :). Keep on the great work.

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quote: &quot;Literally overnight, he went from being optimistic and generally constructive in raids to critical and overbearing — harping on other people&#039;s failures while largely ignoring his own.&quot;

This is the oldest trick in the book, it&#039;s a psychological gimmick really - to make your choice &quot;the right one&quot; you need to put down all the alternatives as &quot;bad choices&quot; (in this case, staying in Surreality) to cope with what you chose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading your blog for quite a while now and you seem like a thoughtfull and competent person, and what is most important &#8211; a friend. If you ever find yourself in need of a feral/feral I would think hard on changing server, faction and race&#8230;oh wait, you&#8217;re US, I&#8217;m EU <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Keep on the great work.</p>
<p>edit:</p>
<p>quote: &#8220;Literally overnight, he went from being optimistic and generally constructive in raids to critical and overbearing — harping on other people&#8217;s failures while largely ignoring his own.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the oldest trick in the book, it&#8217;s a psychological gimmick really &#8211; to make your choice &#8220;the right one&#8221; you need to put down all the alternatives as &#8220;bad choices&#8221; (in this case, staying in Surreality) to cope with what you chose.</p>
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		<title>By: lordofthefries</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2058</link>
		<dc:creator>lordofthefries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can step back from calling him an internet dickwad, then (Especially since he decided to comment on this entry).  I may think it&#039;s a poor way to do things, but no one&#039;s perfect.

Interpersonal relationships are hard to manage, especially when you can&#039;t call the person or drive over and visit with them to talk through your difficulties.  That&#039;s what the majority of the guild management does where I am.  They either live with one another or are within driving distance.  So the fact that the leader doesn&#039;t do anything means that they all can.  So, the people with the emotional investment do end up manning up and making things happen that work out for the betterment of those of us willing and able to run content.

Ego&#039;s make an ass out of all of us at one time or another, but on the scale of things... it could have been worse.  He did talk to you, he was there when necessary, and those things count.  There&#039;s a lot of perception that goes into this (which I think you mentioned), and people perceive things in strange ways.  I hope that everyone involved can work through this to come to an understanding.

L., I don&#039;t know you and I disagree with how you did this, but I&#039;m not going to step up and pass judgement on you.  That sure as hell isn&#039;t my place.  You&#039;ve obviously thought about a lot of what happened, and that&#039;s more than most people do (and one thing dickwad&#039;s don&#039;t).  So, I hope things work out, and even though I don&#039;t know you, I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
.-= lordofthefries´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/lordofthefries/statuses/5231564926&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lordofthefries: @elleiras good for you for resisting temptation.  Someone finally got the 25 man algalon kill on our server last night&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can step back from calling him an internet dickwad, then (Especially since he decided to comment on this entry).  I may think it&#8217;s a poor way to do things, but no one&#8217;s perfect.</p>
<p>Interpersonal relationships are hard to manage, especially when you can&#8217;t call the person or drive over and visit with them to talk through your difficulties.  That&#8217;s what the majority of the guild management does where I am.  They either live with one another or are within driving distance.  So the fact that the leader doesn&#8217;t do anything means that they all can.  So, the people with the emotional investment do end up manning up and making things happen that work out for the betterment of those of us willing and able to run content.</p>
<p>Ego&#8217;s make an ass out of all of us at one time or another, but on the scale of things&#8230; it could have been worse.  He did talk to you, he was there when necessary, and those things count.  There&#8217;s a lot of perception that goes into this (which I think you mentioned), and people perceive things in strange ways.  I hope that everyone involved can work through this to come to an understanding.</p>
<p>L., I don&#8217;t know you and I disagree with how you did this, but I&#8217;m not going to step up and pass judgement on you.  That sure as hell isn&#8217;t my place.  You&#8217;ve obviously thought about a lot of what happened, and that&#8217;s more than most people do (and one thing dickwad&#8217;s don&#8217;t).  So, I hope things work out, and even though I don&#8217;t know you, I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.<br />
<span class="cluv"> lordofthefries´s last blog ..<a href="http://twitter.com/lordofthefries/statuses/5231564926" rel="nofollow">lordofthefries: @elleiras good for you for resisting temptation.  Someone finally got the 25 man algalon kill on our server last night</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2056</link>
		<dc:creator>L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, there are many sides to the same story, and this whole experience has taught me, among many other things, how information deprecates as it passes by word of mouth.

Right now, I am just thankful that you&#039;ve chosen to show me your side of the story. We can go over the misquotes and whatever discrepancies after things have settled down without being emotionally involved.

For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;ve lost a lot of sleep over the past 2 nights because I know I&#039;ve let you down. Maybe it doesn&#039;t mean anything, but I want you to know that I still care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, there are many sides to the same story, and this whole experience has taught me, among many other things, how information deprecates as it passes by word of mouth.</p>
<p>Right now, I am just thankful that you&#8217;ve chosen to show me your side of the story. We can go over the misquotes and whatever discrepancies after things have settled down without being emotionally involved.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ve lost a lot of sleep over the past 2 nights because I know I&#8217;ve let you down. Maybe it doesn&#8217;t mean anything, but I want you to know that I still care.</p>
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		<title>By: Rybowl</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2055</link>
		<dc:creator>Rybowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gets really old and tired when someone decides they are better than their current circumstances.  It&#039;s especially frustrating when they are someone that has been carried as often as not and you really counted them as a friend, so you looked past a lot of the actual behavior.

The &quot;nice tag&quot; is something you get with personal interactions with someone, but behavior sometimes reflects a different side that shows they hold you in contempt or some other state of &quot;not-so-awesome&quot;.  Sometimes that initial &quot;nice tag&quot; you have applied to someone obscures your view of reality.  And maybe he is a nice person, but his actions were not nice.  

Trying to keep a guild pointed in a direction and satisfy enough of everyone&#039;s desires is challenging.  I definitely understand the feeling of accountability even when it is out of your control.  You can try to take responsibility for everything, but usually, you just make yourself tired and crazy for awhile. I have to break out my special jacket every so often. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets really old and tired when someone decides they are better than their current circumstances.  It&#8217;s especially frustrating when they are someone that has been carried as often as not and you really counted them as a friend, so you looked past a lot of the actual behavior.</p>
<p>The &#8220;nice tag&#8221; is something you get with personal interactions with someone, but behavior sometimes reflects a different side that shows they hold you in contempt or some other state of &#8220;not-so-awesome&#8221;.  Sometimes that initial &#8220;nice tag&#8221; you have applied to someone obscures your view of reality.  And maybe he is a nice person, but his actions were not nice.  </p>
<p>Trying to keep a guild pointed in a direction and satisfy enough of everyone&#8217;s desires is challenging.  I definitely understand the feeling of accountability even when it is out of your control.  You can try to take responsibility for everything, but usually, you just make yourself tired and crazy for awhile. I have to break out my special jacket every so often. <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elleiras</title>
		<link>http://altadin.com/2009/10/27/i-wish-i-could-care-less/comment-page-1/#comment-2054</link>
		<dc:creator>Elleiras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hesitated at posting this because I know &quot;L.&quot; occasionally reads my blog and I didn&#039;t want him to see himself crucified.  But at the end of the day, my blog is my catharisis; if I didn&#039;t have it, I&#039;d probably be even more unpleasant to deal with on a daily basis than I already am.  (Anyone who thinks I&#039;m open and easy-going should see /officer chat, lol.)

The thing is, he isn&#039;t a dick.  He&#039;s actually a really nice guy who got a competing offer from an up-and-coming guild and let it go straight to his head.  Instead of remembering all of those times that we waited patiently for him to come back from /afk -- or didn&#039;t, and either undermanned content while he sat in the corner or subbed someone else in to replace him (but still shuffled our raid roster around to let him back in for the one boss that he still needed!) -- he suddenly sees himself as better than the rest of us because SRP wants him.  (Well, they want several other of my raiders, too, but the response in /g has been &quot;lolsrp v22.0.&quot; :p)  

I guess he kind of turned into a dick at the end -- but because he talked to me I at least knew where he was coming from.  The rest of the guild didn&#039;t, so when I defended his behavior in the officer channels I literally sparked a fight, including a pretty significant one with my fiance.  It sucks to go to bat for someone like that and get totally burned.  :(

Anyway, thanks for the encouragement.  You&#039;re overestimating my leadership ability, but I can&#039;t say I don&#039;t appreciate it.  ;)  

And I do understand where you&#039;re coming from with your GM, too.  Some people have a really hard time letting go of things they&#039;re invested in, even after they no longer have the time or motivation for them.   That certainly seems like the case with him.  It would be best for everyone if he stepped down -- but good luck making him see that!  

My original Co-GM was the same way.  He burnt out on guild leadership before we even hit SSC and transferred his main off-server, but tried to retain his Co-GM title on a level 40 alt.  He was utterly shocked when I vetoed that move and demoted all of his characters ... but, really, come on.  &gt;.&lt;  Being a leader in any organization is a responsibility, not a reward.  It astounds me how many people don&#039;t get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hesitated at posting this because I know &#8220;L.&#8221; occasionally reads my blog and I didn&#8217;t want him to see himself crucified.  But at the end of the day, my blog is my catharisis; if I didn&#8217;t have it, I&#8217;d probably be even more unpleasant to deal with on a daily basis than I already am.  (Anyone who thinks I&#8217;m open and easy-going should see /officer chat, lol.)</p>
<p>The thing is, he isn&#8217;t a dick.  He&#8217;s actually a really nice guy who got a competing offer from an up-and-coming guild and let it go straight to his head.  Instead of remembering all of those times that we waited patiently for him to come back from /afk &#8212; or didn&#8217;t, and either undermanned content while he sat in the corner or subbed someone else in to replace him (but still shuffled our raid roster around to let him back in for the one boss that he still needed!) &#8212; he suddenly sees himself as better than the rest of us because SRP wants him.  (Well, they want several other of my raiders, too, but the response in /g has been &#8220;lolsrp v22.0.&#8221; :p)  </p>
<p>I guess he kind of turned into a dick at the end &#8212; but because he talked to me I at least knew where he was coming from.  The rest of the guild didn&#8217;t, so when I defended his behavior in the officer channels I literally sparked a fight, including a pretty significant one with my fiance.  It sucks to go to bat for someone like that and get totally burned.  <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the encouragement.  You&#8217;re overestimating my leadership ability, but I can&#8217;t say I don&#8217;t appreciate it.  <img src='http://altadin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>And I do understand where you&#8217;re coming from with your GM, too.  Some people have a really hard time letting go of things they&#8217;re invested in, even after they no longer have the time or motivation for them.   That certainly seems like the case with him.  It would be best for everyone if he stepped down &#8212; but good luck making him see that!  </p>
<p>My original Co-GM was the same way.  He burnt out on guild leadership before we even hit SSC and transferred his main off-server, but tried to retain his Co-GM title on a level 40 alt.  He was utterly shocked when I vetoed that move and demoted all of his characters &#8230; but, really, come on.  >.<  Being a leader in any organization is a responsibility, not a reward.  It astounds me how many people don&#8217;t get that.</p>
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