And then there were eight.
I benched myself from last night's raid.
We finally managed to recruit a second holy paladin — or, rather, Malamo managed to recruit a second holy paladin by convincing his 3v3 partners to raid with us (most likely by refusing to unbind KAMEHAMEHA! from Lightning Bolt until they agreed to apply >.>).
Not only does Tingwei seem perfectly sane (*fingers crossed*), but she rounds out our group nicely, giving us two raiders of each healing class and the cushion we need to accommodate occasional absences (without having to do silly things like send our 15 million DPS ret pally to his discipline priest for the evening).
However, adding another healer does take our total number to eight, which is two more than we find we need for most content. We're either going to have to look at utilizing our dual-specs (which will take raid spots from the "real" DPS) or start taking turns. Given that we also wait-listed DPS last night, I felt that the latter was the better option and decided to set the precedent by stepping out first.
If the guild leader is the first to ride the bench, then surely others will think twice before complaining about it, right?
... one can hope. ;.;
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October 22nd, 2009 - 11:42
I know this may be a bad idea since it would increase time between fights but would you consider a rotating bench where people would only need to sit out for a few fights and not the whole night? I think if it wasn’t a full night of bench sitting that people would be more willing to do it. You could even include a scheduled bench rotation so that everyone would still feel that it was fair.
This system could really only be used for non-progression content though since for progression it makes sense to select for optimal group composition and individual skill.
Another idea (take it or leave it) would be to maybe increase standby EP above raiding EP maybe 110% or 120% I know at first glance it doesn’t seem to make sense since the people on standby aren’t really doing anything but no-one really wants to be on standby even with the equal EP gain, an increase to the amount of EP gained by benching yourself could make people more willing to do it
Bob2
October 22nd, 2009 - 12:14
Something my guild does when we have too many raiders for spots is a rotation, it means people have to not be afk and have to be outside the instance ready for a quick swap, but it allows us to bring someone in who may need an item off a boss when someone else may need nothing. It works really well in ToC and it’s fairly fast in Uld, especially if you have a warlock and mage handy for summons and portals.
October 22nd, 2009 - 12:27
I definitely want to try something like this. I think people will be more willing to sub out if they know they’ll be able to sub back in for the boss they /really/ want.
October 22nd, 2009 - 13:20
I like the idea of rotating myself. Especially if there are one or two boss fights that a certain player needs for that certain elusive piece of loot. It would take more time, and probably some weighted decision-making, but it sounds the fairest. Maybe have two or three options and put a poll on the site?
Brainstorming is fun.
C++ is not.
October 22nd, 2009 - 13:46
That reminds me, I don’t think I got any standby EP last night!
October 22nd, 2009 - 13:50
Remind me in-game and I’ll fix it.
October 22nd, 2009 - 14:07
So any comments on my increased standby EP idea? Does it have feasibility? is it completely garbage? associated problems?
-Bob2
P.S. Please forgive my pushyness, I am simply attempting to find distractions from studying for Histology which i have to write tomorrow morning. IMHO microscopes are evil.
October 22nd, 2009 - 14:50
I’m not sure >100% EP for standby is the way to go. From a practical standpoint, it would involve a lot of manual effort to award, and from a theoretical standpoint … well, I can’t see rewarding a standby raider who sits occasionally more EP than a core raider. It would feel too much like punishing our best players for /being/ our best players.
October 22nd, 2009 - 15:01
I completely understand about the manual effort thing but i disagree with your theoretical view. First off the “best” players would have the same oppertunity to go to standby and you would only get extra EP on fights that you didn’t participate in, and since i am pretty sure all of us would rather be in there hacking away at the boss then warming the bench this is rewarding people who are willing to step aside every once in a while. So it is basically trading the experience of the fight, and the chance to roll on the loot (and get the emblems) for a small EP bonus to help procure future gear.
-Bob2
October 22nd, 2009 - 14:11
My guild has done this on many occasions and it works very well. We also have a pretty tight knit healing core and always have someone willing to step out for another person.
October 22nd, 2009 - 14:47
“If the guild leader is the first to ride the bench, then surely others will think twice before complaining about it, right?”
Really? Ye think so?
Well actually, amongst the healing team, perhaps this isn’t quite so much an overly optimistic hope as it first sounds? Maybe?
I dunno. I’m very glad either way though that this is now the problem, rather than having to call 25s on account of insufficient numbers.
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October 23rd, 2009 - 07:28
Oh no, they’ll still bitch. Or well, some will. There’s always at least that ONE, you know?
Though come to think of it, I can’t name one of our healers who would c-wait. No. I take that back. There’s one. Damned by my own words!
But certainly by you taking your turn, you’ve taken a lot of the weight from any complaints anyone may utter.
Welcome to the strange world of Having Too Many Healers (though I think we beat your numbers, since I think we have almost as many as you in priests alone…ha)
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